Posted by Ahmed: "Man she wasn't such a great lady".
Yeah, but she looks like she wants to take everyone in the "istans" under her wing and love them like a mother, breast feed and nurture everyone. She really looks like a loving and spiritual person, but women have long known how to use looks for their political agenda.
It's funny how you can tell if someone is intelligent by the way they look. She looks very intelligent.
The second picture is very hot. I don't know what she thinks or what she wants, but whatever it is, I want to be used by her to fulfill whatever plan she has for this world. Unless I find out that she is evil.
fivedragons wrote:Posted by Ahmed: "Man she wasn't such a great lady".
Yeah, but she looks like she wants to take everyone in the "istans" under her wing and love them like a mother, breast feed and nurture everyone. She really looks like a loving and spiritual person, but women have long known how to use looks for their political agenda.
It's funny how you can tell if someone is intelligent by the way they look. She looks very intelligent.
The second picture is very hot. I don't know what she thinks or what she wants, but whatever it is, I want to be used by her to fulfill whatever plan she has for this world. Unless I find out that she is evil.
The prime minister of the Ukraine.
I forgot her name.
But hey, thats one sexy prime minister.
Ive seen her without the Princess Lea hair, and i think she should keep the star wars hair style. It suits her.
Couric: And when it comes to establishing your worldview, I was curious, what newspapers and magazines did you regularly read before you were tapped for this to stay informed and to understand the world?
Palin: I've read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
Couric: What, specifically?
Palin: Um, all of them, any of them that have been in front of me all these years.
Couric: Can you name a few?
Palin: I have a vast variety of sources where we get our news, too. Alaska isn't a foreign country, where it's kind of suggested, "Wow, how could you keep in touch with what the rest of Washington, D.C., may be thinking when you live up there in Alaska?" Believe me, Alaska is like a microcosm of America.
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Couric: If a 15-year-old is raped by her father, do you believe it should be illegal for her to get an abortion, and why?
Palin: I am pro-life. And I'm unapologetic in my position that I am pro-life. And I understand there are good people on both sides of the abortion debate. In fact, good people in my own family have differing views on abortion, and when it should be allowed. Do I respect people's opinions on this. Now, I would counsel to choose life. I would also like to see a culture of life in this country. But I would also like to take it one step further. Not just saying I am pro-life and I want fewer and fewer abortions in this country, but I want them, those women who find themselves in circumstances that are absolutely less than ideal, for them to be supported, and adoptions made easier.
Couric: But ideally, you think it should be illegal for a girl who was raped or the victim of incest to get an abortion?
Palin: I'm saying that, personally, I would counsel the person to choose life, despite horrific, horrific circumstances that this person would find themselves in. And, um, if you're asking, though, kind of foundationally here, should anyone end up in jail for having an … abortion, absolutely not. That's nothing I would ever support.
Bill: read your article and don't doubt a word. I just don't think that "conservative values" would include looking kindly on appearing in playboy or posed nude with a volleyball. I wonder if the Miss America pageant has a rule on that...
fivedragons wrote:The second picture is very hot. I don't know what she thinks or what she wants, but whatever it is, I want to be used by her to fulfill whatever plan she has for this world. Unless I find out that she is evil.
She's a hottie and a half, maybe even 3/4s. Doesn't she want the Ukraine to rejoin Russia? I think she's a former PM? All I can do is recognize her; I need to brush up on her since that's where the next war will be.
Consider that Palin was a journalism major. I hardly think she doesn't read. What I do find irritating is this attempt to make someone look stupid by playing quiz show.
As for the views on abortion, well... she is entitled. Why do you find this objectionable, Ian? She was asked her view, and she stated it. Does that means she intends to get government to impose those views on someone else? How could you - a physician - imply that a love of life is somehow a character defect?
Good thing you are "normal", Ian. We need the benchmark against which to pattern our behavior.
One might be concerned that the journalism major is not fast enough on her feet to even think of a magazine or newspaper when asked about them. Consider:
"Dr. Ian, what medical journals and resources do you use to shape your opinions?"
"Why, thanks for asking. I read JAMA, the New England Journal, Annals, the journal of Hospital Medicine, and selected articles from Archives and Mayo Clinic Proceedings. When I do searches, I often find items in Chest or Lancet or others. I skim through "Internal Medicine News" and "the Hospitalist." For quick info I usually turn to UptoDate or the guidelines clearinghouse."
What if I really don't read anything or can't think of anything?
"Well, to me, the key factor is the relevance of the article rather than the source. Usually, I may have a certain question to answer, and I'll ask my staff to find me good articles on the subject, and they may bring me material from a bunch of different journals and newspapers. I learn a lot from reading the work of people who disagree with me, actually--the thing is to keep in mind what the perspective of the author is and what they may not be saying along with what they're emphasizing."
Now really, how hard is that? You spent a few posts extolling the virtues of beauty* pageant participation for preparation for public office. Where, may I ask, is the payoff? She stumbled through that answer like that pageant contestant who rambled herself into a half billion youtube hits a while back. If looking good in a swimsuit prepares you for the vice presidency, then by all means, instilling some confidence in the American public about being a well read and informed representative is a necessary skill.
As for her abortion views, of COURSE she's welcome to them. I myself have recently written here that anyone who provides a rape exemption isn't being completely logical. That's the same as allowing partial birth abortions for the "health" reason of "severe maternal distress," which means "I really don't want this healthy baby anymore." I totally support her logic here, and it is the right thing for someone who believes a human being can exist of a fertilized ovum. On the other hand, since that view on abortion is contrary to the views of most Americans, and she won't even give a straight answer about whether she'd move to outlaw abortion in the case of rape and incest, those perfectly logical views are of paramount interest to voters and particularly some of the women voters who were targeted with her selection. Would you think that the views should be pushed to the shadows until she's appointing SCOTUS judges?
Bill Glasheen wrote:What I do find irritating is this attempt to make someone look stupid by playing quiz show.
Yes, but I'm afraid, however, that the effort has paid off somewhat. Let's not focus on her proven leadership as Governor and her obvious success at deal-making, which specifically impressed even Bill Clinton. If she's appealing to many because of her ordinariness in many respects, just run with that. Try to make her look as ordinary as possible. They've got some people thinking, for example, she (a journalism major in college and current Governor of Alaska) doesn't keep up with current events.
Palin didn't sink; she held her own. Biden avoided being too much of a jerk with only occasional inappropriate smiling. Overall Biden answered more with facts and Palin with a bit more filler, and Biden answered questions a bit more directly, eg, when asked about their flaws, Palin listed her attributes and Biden acknowledged several flaws then spent most of the time listing his attributes. From both, I tire of pleas that they crawled right out of Main Street America, and having to wait for the fact check people the next day.
IJ wrote:
One might be concerned that the journalism major is not fast enough on her feet to even think of a magazine or newspaper when asked about them.
Not so fast, Ian.
Did it occur to you that Sarah - the journalism major - sensed this was a loaded question? What if I asked you where you got TV news from and you said CNN? Oh my god... we'd all come down on you for what a flaming Ted Turner, Jane Fonda hugging the Viet Cong liberal you were. Then we'd rush an ad out on the airways characterizing the source of your view of the world.
Yes I saw that when the question was asked. No you didn't. I guess that makes me smart and you a beauty queen airhead, no?
You don't think that would happen, Ian? Well... I once suggested online here that The Wall Street Journal was the only written news source that didn't pi$$ me off when I read it. Next thing I know, someone's on here talking about the "neocon" editoral pages. You know what? I don't think I've ever read a single WSJ editorial page. And independent sources have evaluated the NEWS portion of The Journal as much more "liberal" than the editorial page. But the "gotcha" is already there.
Good for Sarah for not taking the bait.
Here's the thing. With all the piling on going on with SNL and Katie "the Echol scholar (NOT)" Couric, it turns out from independent sources that Palin at least equaled if not bested the experienced and "intellectual" Biden on the debate. As I predicted... the same thing happened with Ronald "the nitwit actor" Reagan vs. Carter.
Somebody some time should watch how Frank Beamer characterizes his (football) opponent in an interview days before the game.
A smart person knows that you never, ever give the opposition bulletin board material. More often than not, it comes back to bite you. Not Frank. He spends the interview talking up the opposition, and what a great challenge it will be facing them. Then his teams routinely get the job done without the hype.
Looks to me like Sleeper Sarah caught Biden napping.
We'll see what everyone else says about the debate and whether her fluffier folksy responses pleased everyone. Personally, I think she came off well in part because she was expected to faceplant. The debate was pretty even in my house.
As for her brilliant deflection of a trap, I really didn't feel it. That's a lovely spin on her answer. IF that were her intent, why not throw off a couple sources from the other side of the political spectrum and opine that she's preparing to be everyone's veep and wants to understand the whole country's thoughts? Instead the read is that she can't name a single source--have you seen evidence that many people (not already voting for her) thought she was clever there? I'd be interested to read it.
In the meantime, I agree, it's wise for her to avoid answering any questions about what she thinks or believes, lest anyone have any quotes to misrepresent. Remember that bit about abortion, where she went on about how she favors life and would counsel the rape victim to choose life? Sure beats admitting that she'd try to amend the Constitution with a pro-life amendment
I really don't see how basically no answer at all is a clever response ... still trying to wrap my head around that one. But like you said, I'm an airhead, and obviously, my second option for a response wouldn't, you know, entirely turn the attempted supposed gotcha of the question into a gotcha back by presenting her as open minded instead of locking her into a potentially unpopular publication... yeah, we wouldn't want to do that.
The dems seem to be pulling ahead, thanks in part IMO to Palin coming off like the hockey mom from next door who they set up with a load of canned answers..
Looks like choosing Palin may well backfire for the reps.. But should the reps win we can all rest easy finally having a vice pres and/or pres in office who likes to constantly wink at the camera.. I've seen it all now...
God I think I'm going to be sick..
Shaolin M Y V T K F "Receive what comes, stay with what goes, upon loss of contact attack the line" – The Kuen Kuit
IJ wrote:
I really don't see how basically no answer at all is a clever response ... still trying to wrap my head around that one. But like you said, I'm an airhead, and obviously, my second option for a response wouldn't, you know, entirely turn the attempted supposed gotcha of the question into a gotcha back by presenting her as open minded instead of locking her into a potentially unpopular publication... yeah, we wouldn't want to do that.
You know, I just think it was a bad response. Maybe her brain was fried from all the coaching and cramming leading up to the interview, and maybe she was just tired from navigating the minefield of the interview itself in the context where her slightest misstatement would be held against her. You think she couldn't come up with 3 or 4 better answers 5 minutes later? That never happens to you? Happens to me all the time.
She looks very intelligent.
