McCain chooses Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska

[cxt]

AAA

That were talking about Palin was my point exactly

The media didn't spend 10 minutes total (figure of speech) on the scary relgious beliefs of a man that is trying to get a nuke and has publically stated his desire to wipe out Isreal and the USA and funds terrorists---includeing some that have been killing Americans in Iraq BTW, and holds public hangings for gays and keeps women as chattle.......yet devotes endless ink and speculation on a person that has nothing even remotely comparable.

Its dangerously myopic.......plus, from where I sit far less actual concern and more real-politik....which is fine by me BTW, but lets just admit it.

Lets not forget that Obama himself and many ranking Democrats are also people of claimed strong faith.
Obama even used one his Pastors sermons as the catalist for his best selling book---yet nobody seems to be questioning if he and they are "to relgious" to lead.

Are these people lying about their faith? Has anybody questioned Speaker Pelosi hard on the actual substance of her personal relgious beliefs?
(which BTW according to her was she was elected to "save the planet" not serve the peope of her region and the people of the USA in general not per-se "relgious" but IMO quite a troubling insight as to her views on her job and what she was elected to do)
Was Hillary Clinton put to the question on her and her husbands faith and its impact on their PROFESSIONAL actions?

Its a question applied to only one person and in only one context....so IMO its highly suspect.

And like I said, a vastly inferior problem for the media to be spending all this time and energy on--while the ignore what IMO are vastly more dangerous situations and people.

[cxt]

Jim

"Technology"

Ok, we have from gone "capatialst" being the problem to "technology" being the problem.

So we can add Luddite to your list of POV's then?

[Jason Rees]

An antagonist view of Sarah Palin from someone who has dealt with her in her hometown:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/info/kilkenny.asp

And a more complimentary, but fuzzy view from her hometown again:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/info/frost.asp

Someone fond of her performance as governor:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/info/king.asp

Someone not so fond of her performance as governor:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/info/jackie.asp

[JimHawkins]

Jim

"Technology"

Ok, we have from gone "capatialst" being the problem to "technology" being the problem.

So we can add Luddite to your list of POV's then?

Not that I care even a little: But WTF are you blabbering on about now?

If you are going to keep typing my name at the top of your "posts" and are responding to something I wrote then quote it..

At one time I was a Technology Manager..

[JimHawkins]

McCain spokesman Brian Rogers decried "the latest false smear spreading from liberal blogs to the mainstream press - that Governor Palin banned books as Mayor of Wasilla. This is categorically false. The fact is that as Mayor, Palin never asked anyone to ban a book and not one book was ever banned, period."

That is true, though not a comprehensive account of the matter. The librarian in question has admitted that she only ever heard from Palin in the abstract on the issue of whether books could be pulled from library stacks. After the librarian responded that she would oppose such a move, no further discussions were held with Palin. Certainly, there was no official list drawn up. However, in a fact the McCain email leaves out, Palin approached the librarian three times to ask about the possibility, which could legitimately appear to some as something of a pressure campaign (especially considering that Palin attempted to have the librarian removed afterward).

Still, the list of books supposedly banned under Palin's tenure is transparently fake. What's interesting, however, is the fact that the McCain campaign responded to this issue with the same force Obama has used to combat rumors about his religion or alleged support for "infanticide." Was there a sense in McCain's universe that the banned books trope was potentially similar in terms of its crippling ability?

[Jason Rees]

I think McCain's campaign has picked up on the religious and book issues as little things that can topple his campaign, so he hit them head on. As he should. And sticking up for Palin only helps him in the polls.

Obama's surrogates will ride this horse for as much mileage as it can get. From a strategic point of view, it only helps the dems to do so. It helps fan the flames among their base.

Still, Jim, it'd be nice if you posted a source along with your quote, there.

[JimHawkins]

However, in a fact the McCain email leaves out, Palin approached the librarian three times to ask about the possibility, which could legitimately appear to some as something of a pressure campaign (especially considering that Palin attempted to have the librarian removed afterward).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/0 ... 24947.html

[JimHawkins]

I'm going to do some more research on her and other stuff.. So far she strikes me as one radical and scary bitch.. Bottom line: I don't like either party's option..

On an aside I was speaking with some MDs today.. They mentioned that they are certain her small child actually is her daughter's child.. Something about her accounts of the timing of the birth, water breaking, plane trips, etc..

[Bill Glasheen]

On an aside I was speaking with some MDs today.. They mentioned that they are certain her small child actually is her daughter's child.. Something about her accounts of the timing of the birth, water breaking, plane trips, etc..

Sorry but that's patently ridiculous, Jim. The odds of a Down Syndrome child being born to a teen vs. a 40-something woman are close to nil.

• The odds of a Down Syndrome child being born to a mother at birth age 25 are 1 in 1250.
• The odds at age 45 are 1 in 30.

Do the math.

- Bill

[JimHawkins]

On an aside I was speaking with some MDs today.. They mentioned that they are certain her small child actually is her daughter's child.. Something about her accounts of the timing of the birth, water breaking, plane trips, etc..

Sorry but that's patently ridiculous, Jim. The odds of a Down Syndrome child being born to a teen vs. a 40-something woman are close to nil.

• The odds of a Down Syndrome child being born to a mother at birth age 25 are 1 in 1250.
• The odds at age 45 are 1 in 30.

Do the math.

- Bill

Ain't my math to do.. This is what two Obstetricians I met were talking about today.. I have no position on the matter.

[Jason Rees]

The Huffington Post?!?! LOL! You guys think Coulter's a loon? Check out Arianna Huffington! I was in California during the 180-goobers-running-for-governor-debacle.

Um, I think the matter of who had the downs' baby is settled. Carrying on like this is awful reminiscent of the looney 9/11 CIA setup conspiracies.

[mhosea]

Carrying on like this is awful reminiscent of the looney 9/11 CIA setup conspiracies.

Yes, but it does differ in one very critical way. A 9/11 CIA setup conspiracy, if it actually existed, would be mindbogglingly important.

[JimHawkins]

Um, I think the matter of who had the downs' baby is settled. Carrying on like this is awful reminiscent of the looney 9/11 CIA setup conspiracies.

Who is carrying on?

I simply mentioned a conversation..

And I fail to see what parental fraternity has to do with false flag terrorism--wrong thread.

I have my opinions about such things (the intelligence was there IMO) but I don't know and can't prove if the CIA or elements in the IC played any role in 9/11 or not but then neither can you.

The difference is I wouldn't put it past "them" where "them" could be any compartmentalized element within the NSC that are known to have done and do all kinds of very nasty things as part of a full days work..

Something you can't fathom, or so it would seem..

[AAAhmed46]

AAA

That were talking about Palin was my point exactly

The media didn't spend 10 minutes total (figure of speech) on the scary relgious beliefs of a man that is trying to get a nuke and has publically stated his desire to wipe out Isreal and the USA and funds terrorists---includeing some that have been killing Americans in Iraq BTW, and holds public hangings for gays and keeps women as chattle.......yet devotes endless ink and speculation on a person that has nothing even remotely comparable.

Its dangerously myopic.......plus, from where I sit far less actual concern and more real-politik....which is fine by me BTW, but lets just admit it.

Lets not forget that Obama himself and many ranking Democrats are also people of claimed strong faith.
Obama even used one his Pastors sermons as the catalist for his best selling book---yet nobody seems to be questioning if he and they are "to relgious" to lead.

Are these people lying about their faith? Has anybody questioned Speaker Pelosi hard on the actual substance of her personal relgious beliefs?
(which BTW according to her was she was elected to "save the planet" not serve the peope of her region and the people of the USA in general not per-se "relgious" but IMO quite a troubling insight as to her views on her job and what she was elected to do)
Was Hillary Clinton put to the question on her and her husbands faith and its impact on their PROFESSIONAL actions?

Its a question applied to only one person and in only one context....so IMO its highly suspect.

And like I said, a vastly inferior problem for the media to be spending all this time and energy on--while the ignore what IMO are vastly more dangerous situations and people.

The media does nothing BUT talk about those peoples beliefs.

RIGHT NOW palin gets more press because it's election time, if she does/does not get elected, the press on her will die down alot more, and 'those people' will get more press, like they always have.

The news has, before elections, put lots of attention on those people. ANd probably will afterward, unless of coarse there is war with russia.

[IJ]

Thanks for the pro and con alaska links, Jason. Someone had sent me one and I wasn't sure if it was real.

If anyone would like to have a war with Russia, we can ask Palin how NATO membership for Georgia might be helpful