Hope you weren't the "piggy" in your real time version of deliverance
....although some folks might like that sort of thing 
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Bill Glasheen
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jorvik wrote:
Hope you weren't the "piggy" in your real time version of deliverance ....although some folks might like that sort of thing
During their OB-GYN visits, women have their breast exams where the mammary tissue gets squashed like a pancake in-between two plates before the X-rays are applied. Then they get loaded up in the stirrups, and subjected to further indignities while being checked for proper plumbing and such.
Men only have to put up with an occasional "turn your head and cough" indignity...until it comes time for a digital prostate exam. It was that first exam - two years ago - which convinced me beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm happily heterosexual.
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Bill,
They do have female doctors you know.
I'll leave it right there.......
F.
They do have female doctors you know.
I'll leave it right there.......
F.
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True meaning of an often abused term.
REDNECKS
The origins of this term Redneck are Scottish and refer to supporters of the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, or "Covenanters", largely Lowland Presbyterians, many of whom would flee Scotland for Ulster (Northern Ireland) during persecutions by the British Crown. The Covenanters of 1638 and 1641 signed the documents that stated that Scotland desired the Presbyterian form of church government and would not accept the Church of England as its official state church.
Many Covenanters signed in their own blood and wore red pieces of cloth around their necks as distinctive insignia; hence the term "Red neck", (rednecks) which became slang for a Scottish dissenter*. One Scottish immigrant, interviewed by the author, remembered a Presbyterian minister, one Dr. Coulter, in Glasgow in the 1940's wearing a red clerical collar -- is this symbolic of the "rednecks"?
Since many Ulster-Scottish settlers in America (especially the South) were Presbyterian, the term was applied to them, and then, later, their Southern descendants. One of the earliest examples of its use comes from 1830, when an author noted that "red-neck" was a "name bestowed upon the Presbyterians." It makes you wonder if the originators of the ever-present "redneck" joke are aware of the term’s origins - Rednecks?
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REDNECKS
The origins of this term Redneck are Scottish and refer to supporters of the National Covenant and The Solemn League and Covenant, or "Covenanters", largely Lowland Presbyterians, many of whom would flee Scotland for Ulster (Northern Ireland) during persecutions by the British Crown. The Covenanters of 1638 and 1641 signed the documents that stated that Scotland desired the Presbyterian form of church government and would not accept the Church of England as its official state church.
Many Covenanters signed in their own blood and wore red pieces of cloth around their necks as distinctive insignia; hence the term "Red neck", (rednecks) which became slang for a Scottish dissenter*. One Scottish immigrant, interviewed by the author, remembered a Presbyterian minister, one Dr. Coulter, in Glasgow in the 1940's wearing a red clerical collar -- is this symbolic of the "rednecks"?
Since many Ulster-Scottish settlers in America (especially the South) were Presbyterian, the term was applied to them, and then, later, their Southern descendants. One of the earliest examples of its use comes from 1830, when an author noted that "red-neck" was a "name bestowed upon the Presbyterians." It makes you wonder if the originators of the ever-present "redneck" joke are aware of the term’s origins - Rednecks?
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Hillbilly
Hey, Fred.
Similarly, "hillbilly" is another term for the Ulster-Scot protestant (Presbyterian) who supported William of Orange, King Billy.
The Ulster-Scots fled Northern Ireland by the millions in the early 1700 after the Battle of the Boyne and the Defense of Derry against the Catholic supporters of the Scottish pretendor James II.
They left Ulster for Appalachia, hence supporters of William who left for the "hills," are referred to as "Hillbillys."
Here's what Wikipedia has to say:
Similarly, "hillbilly" is another term for the Ulster-Scot protestant (Presbyterian) who supported William of Orange, King Billy.
The Ulster-Scots fled Northern Ireland by the millions in the early 1700 after the Battle of the Boyne and the Defense of Derry against the Catholic supporters of the Scottish pretendor James II.
They left Ulster for Appalachia, hence supporters of William who left for the "hills," are referred to as "Hillbillys."
Here's what Wikipedia has to say:
Ulster-America is the geographical area surrounding the Great-Wagon Road, from Southeast Pennsylvania through western Virginia, the Carolinias and terminating in northern Georgia.The term "Hill-Billies" is first encountered in documents from 17th century Ireland. Roman Catholic King James II landed at Kinsale in Ireland in 1689 and began to raise a Catholic army in an attempt to regain the British throne. Protestant King William III, Prince of Orange, led an English counter force into Ireland and defeated James II at the Battle of the Boyne in 1690. A significant portion of William III's army was composed of Protestants of Scottish descent (Planters) who had settled in Ulster in northern Ireland. The southern Irish Catholic supporters of James II referred to these northern Protestant supporters of King William as "Hill-Billies" and "Billy Boys"--Billy being an abbreviation of William; the term "Billy Boy" is still used today, mainly in Northern Ireland. The Catholics and Protestants were at war and the terms were not spoken in kindness. Supporters of King William more generally came to be known as Orangemen.
It is believed that the term "hillbilly" in the United States was conferred during the early 18th Century by the occupying British soldiers as a carry over from the Irish term, in referring to Scots-Irish immigrants of mainly Presbyterian origin, dwelling in the frontier areas of the Appalachian Mountains[citation needed]. These Protestant Irish colonists brought their cultural traditions with them when they immigrated. Many of their stories, songs and ballads dealt with the history of their Ulster and Lowland Scot homelands, especially relating the tale of the Protestant King William III, Prince of Orange.
There is much to make of every moment.
*scuse interuption* :)
I didn't recount the whole encounter- she was up hill- the kids and I were down the hill- we were coming out of a forest- so there werw still a couple trees around-
my kids were behind me- were we about to run up the hill- when I saw the mama and cubs-
she saw me too- and I was awe struck at how clean she was- in fact she was so clean I thought she was a great big dog at first-
quickly realizing it was indeed a family of bears- and I had my own bears to worry about- my kids and I took a side step- putting us each behind a tree-
(they are karateka too...)
After waiting for a couple minutes- giving me plenty of time to see that she was sniffing the air- she was incredibly clean indicating to me they might be hungary and possibly coming out of hybernation- but playing so maybe filled up too-
I waited until she looked down to bat one of her cubs- told the kids to run- and making sure she wasn't watching I ran too-
It felt a little un-necessary- because we ran right back into the forest- she was up the hill- right in the middle of houses- indicating she wasn't all "that" wild- to be playing on a street with her cubs-
anyway- I regretted being in bear country without some sort of weapon or something- a little ego to deal with I spose maybe-
I'll carry mase or something now- which would probably just tick her off- but "something" a bell to make sound with or keys or something-
Taking a quick jaunt back to what was aid- (sorry it was a couple pages ago- I think Laird may have said this.. or a "Glenn".. scuse me please.for not quoting it...) the comment about some people are designed to head "into" danger-
I agree with what you said and stated as examples- the policeman the fireman-
they did however go threw training- to help change their instinct..
I believe we change our instinct with karate-
and sometimes the best way to find the way "out" of a bad situation requires force- someone's hitting you- you hit back- quickly efficiently- "then" run :)
I've enjoyed the topic and discussion it provoaked- Thank you
scary guns... :)
I have thought over the summer though about the best way to fight a bear with your hands- if that's all you had-
the best I could come up with was the soft parts in the arm pit and eye balls
had she actualy come after us- I would have given my kids enough time to get to safety- end of story- might not have been pretty though; for me anyway-
*shrug* provoaked a lot of thought for me as I hadn't even been thinking about dealing with bears- espescialy that night-
:)
Thanks again-
Kerry
I didn't recount the whole encounter- she was up hill- the kids and I were down the hill- we were coming out of a forest- so there werw still a couple trees around-
my kids were behind me- were we about to run up the hill- when I saw the mama and cubs-
she saw me too- and I was awe struck at how clean she was- in fact she was so clean I thought she was a great big dog at first-
quickly realizing it was indeed a family of bears- and I had my own bears to worry about- my kids and I took a side step- putting us each behind a tree-
(they are karateka too...)
After waiting for a couple minutes- giving me plenty of time to see that she was sniffing the air- she was incredibly clean indicating to me they might be hungary and possibly coming out of hybernation- but playing so maybe filled up too-
I waited until she looked down to bat one of her cubs- told the kids to run- and making sure she wasn't watching I ran too-
It felt a little un-necessary- because we ran right back into the forest- she was up the hill- right in the middle of houses- indicating she wasn't all "that" wild- to be playing on a street with her cubs-
anyway- I regretted being in bear country without some sort of weapon or something- a little ego to deal with I spose maybe-
I'll carry mase or something now- which would probably just tick her off- but "something" a bell to make sound with or keys or something-
Taking a quick jaunt back to what was aid- (sorry it was a couple pages ago- I think Laird may have said this.. or a "Glenn".. scuse me please.for not quoting it...) the comment about some people are designed to head "into" danger-
I agree with what you said and stated as examples- the policeman the fireman-
they did however go threw training- to help change their instinct..
I believe we change our instinct with karate-
and sometimes the best way to find the way "out" of a bad situation requires force- someone's hitting you- you hit back- quickly efficiently- "then" run :)
I've enjoyed the topic and discussion it provoaked- Thank you
scary guns... :)
I have thought over the summer though about the best way to fight a bear with your hands- if that's all you had-
the best I could come up with was the soft parts in the arm pit and eye balls
had she actualy come after us- I would have given my kids enough time to get to safety- end of story- might not have been pretty though; for me anyway-
*shrug* provoaked a lot of thought for me as I hadn't even been thinking about dealing with bears- espescialy that night-
:)
Thanks again-
Kerry
AH! It was Bill- Very cool comment:
that was the comment I was speaking about- good one- :) I get what you were saying- same time- they all trained for what they did- including Mr. Irwin :) He grew up with it so was trained in experience- (not that I'm disagreeing though- I'm not-because they still felt the desire to "be there" and train or whatever... in the first place- :) )
Kerry
In the words of Grossman... Some people flee from danger, while others were destined to run towards it. Take an average citizen vs. a firefighter, LEO, or veteran soldier. Take a normal person vs. the late Steve Irwin.
that was the comment I was speaking about- good one- :) I get what you were saying- same time- they all trained for what they did- including Mr. Irwin :) He grew up with it so was trained in experience- (not that I'm disagreeing though- I'm not-because they still felt the desire to "be there" and train or whatever... in the first place- :) )
Kerry
Red-necking around
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Willy
"The California State Department of Fish and Game is advising hikers, hunters, fishermen, and golfers to take extra precautions and be on the alert for bears while in the Yosemite, Tahoe, and Northern Sierra areas.
They advise people to wear noise-producing devices, such as little bells, on their clothing to alert but not startle the bears unexpectedly.
They also advise you to carry pepper spray, in case of an encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch for signs of bear activity.
People should be able to recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear droppings:
Black bear droppings are smaller and contain berries and possibly squirrel fur.
Grizzly bear droppings have bells in them and smell like pepper spray."
They advise people to wear noise-producing devices, such as little bells, on their clothing to alert but not startle the bears unexpectedly.
They also advise you to carry pepper spray, in case of an encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch for signs of bear activity.
People should be able to recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear droppings:
Black bear droppings are smaller and contain berries and possibly squirrel fur.
Grizzly bear droppings have bells in them and smell like pepper spray."
