February, 1997 Mailbag!February, 1997 Mailbag!
Dear Sensei:
My name is John Hassell and I am a practitioner of the Yamani Ryu style of Okinawan kobudo.
My sensei is Kiyoshi Nishime Sensei, who is a student of Chogi Kishaba Sensei. Kishaba Sensei is
the last living student of Masami Chinen Sensei still teaching the art in the form that he learned it.
Kishaba Sensei had studied with Chinen Sensei for almost 30 years.
I plan to host Nishime Sensei here in Massachusetts for a 1-day seminar on April 13, 1997, in an
attempt to contribute to the pepetuation of this very powerful, beautiful art/style. I would greatly
appreciate it if you could provide me with a mailing address to wich I can send a flyer.
Should you have any questions regarding the art, please feel free to write. There is a Web site with
information on the style and its instructors located at http://www.rbkd.org.
Osu!
John
Robb's point (from Sacramento) on dan kumite #3 about having to transition across the center line
is well taken. It deserves consideration and further exploration. Most peole, Robb, practice kumite
in an extremely linear fashion, and never run across what you found to be so unnatural. Believe me,
I appreciate your perceptions. I have had to work hard (maybe too hard) to act out a scenario
where it feels like it could happen naturally.
As for our gi pants, better to have them in a twist than to be told we wear no clothes! It is
comments from people like Robb who claim not to be gifted that often get people willing to listen a
chance to rethink things we have gotten too comfortable with.
Bill Glasheen
mr mattson
how is everything?
i am writing this letter to see if you have the list of movements for the kata "superemepi" that is
shown on your tape #6. i was not able to caught all of the movements on the tape. please help me
in getting the list of the movements.
sincerely
charles roberts
Hello George:
Gung-Hee-Fat-Choy !! Wish your new year will even be better than the last.
I am in the process of moving into a new dojo in Martinez, CA, about 40 miles east of San
Francisco. Martinez is an old city where most of the major governmental facilities of Contra Costa
County is located. The County, by the way, is one of the largest counties in California. Since the
new Dojo is some distance from my old place, which means, of course, I am starting all over again.
I signed a 3-year lease for a small building (2000 q. ft) which was a bar and dance hall at one time.
The actual workout floor space is a little over 1000 sq.ft. I feel very positive and good about this
new venture and I welcome all Uechi and Shohei folks to stop by when they are in the area.
The new Dojo address is:
Martinez Karate Academy
3545 Alhambra Way
Martinez, CA. 94553
Phone: (925) 288-6026
e-mail: henrythom@juno.com
Please update the dojo info in your web site when you have a chance. Thank You and I'll be in
touch.
Henry Thom
Congratulation Henry. Good luck with your new dojo. Hope to visit you on my next West
Coast trip. GEM
Hi George:
I think this is the message you are talking about. (An interesting set of posts on the CyberDojo
GEM)I also sent another one today in response to someone else's comments. I have included my
second message as well. I'm not sure that my ideas are very well thought out at this point, but this is
where my thinking is at.
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> Sparring has always been a part of the Uechi-Ryu curriculum, even in
> the days of Kanbum Uechi. While we can debate its necessity now, it
> was the first tool, really, that taught things like reaction, proper
> distancing and control...
I did not mean for this to become a thread, so I suppose I should have clarified that I am not a fan
of FREE sparring, which was introduced officially into Uechi Ryu in 1958. Pre-arranged sparring
has many uses such as teaching timing and distancing and do tend to add more meaning to the kata.
However, if not taught correctly, they can lead to a limited view of the applications of techniques in
kata. While I have seen it mentioned in some books by more recent students of Uechi Ryu that
Kanbun taught free sparring, the writing's that I have seen by people who were training prior to,
and including, 1958 mention the first Uechi Ryu dan tests, which were held in that year, as their first
introduction to free sparring (not counting challenge matches). An interview with Shinyu Gushi in
Volume 8 of "Dragon Times" provides the best description that I have seen of this introduction. Of
course, it is possible that there was some free sparring going on in some dojo before that time, but
it appears to have been very limited. Because of the savageness of this first sparring "event", which
became real fights where the students fought as they had been trained with the result of many
serious injuries, new rules had to be establish for sparring and students had to change their thinking
about how to fight. This is my main objection to free sparring. Simple punching and kicking makes
up almost all of the techniques ever used in free sparring and competitions. That leaves out a large
body of techniques that could be used in a real fight, but which we train ourselves not to use. These
are my thoughts at any rate. The historical stuff is based on the little bit of printed material I have
seen on training in the early days by the people who were there. If anyone who has first-hand
experience of training at that time would like to add comments, corrections, etc., they would be
greatly appreciated.
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> I am puzzled by the comment I read the other night about Uechi Free
> sparringing being introduced in 1958?? I spoke with Master George
> Mattson ealier this year <snip> We discussed briefly the way training
> was done when he first started in Okinawa. When he tested for his
> Shodan, part of the test was Free sparring!!!
You seem to think that George got his Shodan rank prior to 1958. I don't know how old George
appears in person ;) , but according to an article on the history of the Uechi Ryu dan test that he
posted on his web site his Shodan test was only a few weeks before the first general testing in 1958
(early because they thought he would be transfered out of Okinawa before that first test
administration).
> Surely it was not incorporated just for GI's ??
> Mattson does say however that it was brutal, unlike todays' flashy
> Money-making wuss-type game of tag!!!
> I have also heard that Kanbum Uechi did allow the higher Dan ranks
> free spar. As did other traditional Dojo in that time.
I haven't really heard anything concrete about this, nor what this sparring may have been like.
> But what is FREE spar mean to anyone here? Free to use what ever...
> If you do not use it, how will you know?
> (I do not mean to sound like I am going for a cage match with anyone,
> but if you do not pratice realistic attack and defence in the dojo,
> then how will you know?)
But in free sparring, you cannot use "what ever". Most tournaments that I have seen forbid kicking
below the waist. That pretty much eliminates all kicks taught in Uechi Ryu for self-defense
purposes! Many techniques (in every style), while effective in self defense situations, are too
dangerous to use in free sparring, even between friends in a dojo. Free sparring tends to be just the
"games of tag" that you mention. I see a lot of basic punching/kicking but very little of other
techniques. I therefore question the effectiveness of sparring in showing what will/won't work on the
street. Practicing realistic attack and defense and sparring are two different things.
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Glenn Humphress
th20405@navix.net
Lincoln, NE
Athough this letter doesn't have anything to do with karate, it does make a statement about people who take explore historical links and take themselves too seriously. . .
The story behind this... There's this fellow (nutball?) who digs things out his back yard and sends
his finds to the Smithsonian Institute, labeling them with scientific names, insisting that they are actual
archeological specimens. The really weird thing about these letters is that this guy really exists and
does this in his spare time!
Anyway... here's a letter from the Smithsonian Institute from when he sent them a Barbie doll head.
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Paleoanthropology Division
Smithsonian Institute
207 Pennsylvania Avenue
Washington, DC 20078
Dear Sir:
Thank you for your latest submission to the Institute, labeled "211-D, layer seven, next to the
clothesline post. Hominid skull." We have given this specimen a careful and detailed examination,
and regret to inform you that we disagree with your theory that it represents "conclusive proof of
the presence of Early Man in Charleston County two million years ago." Rather, it appears that
what you have found is the head of a Barbie doll, of the variety one of our staff, who has small
children, believes to be the "Malibu Barbie". It is evident that you have given a great deal of thought
to the analysis of this specimen, and you may be quite certain that those of us who are familiar with
your prior work in the field were loathe to come to contradiction with your findings.
However, we do feel that there are a number of physical attributes of the specimen which might
have tipped you off to it's modern origin:
1. The material is molded plastic. Ancient hominid remains are typically fossilized bone.
2. The cranial capacity of the specimen is approximately 9 cubic centimeters, well below the
threshold of even the earliest identified proto-hominids.
3. The dentition pattern evident on the "skull" is more consistent with the common domesticated
dog than it is with the "ravenous man-eating Pliocene clams" you speculate roamed the wetlands
during that time.
This latter finding is certainly one of the most intriguing hypotheses you have submitted in your
history with this institution, but the evidence seems to weigh rather heavily against it. Without going
into too much detail, let us say that:
A. The specimen looks like the head of a Barbie doll that a dog has chewed on.
B. Clams don't have teeth.
It is with feelings tinged with melancholy that we must deny your request to have the specimen
carbon dated. This is partially due to the heavy load our lab must bear in its normal operation, and
partly due to carbon dating's notorious inaccuracy in fossils of recent geologic record. To the best
of our knowledge, no Barbie dolls were produced prior to 1956 AD, and carbon dating is likely to
produce wildly inaccurate results. Sadly, we must also deny your request that we approach the
National Science Foundation's Phylogeny Department with the concept of assigning your specimen
the scientific name "Australopithecus spiff-arino." Speaking personally, I, for one, fought tenaciously
for the acceptance of your proposed taxonomy, but was ultimately voted down because the
species name you selected was hyphenated, and didn't really sound like it might be Latin.
However, we gladly accept your generous donation of this fascinating specimen to the museum.
While it is undoubtedly not a hominid fossil, it is, nonetheless, yet another riveting example of the
great body of work you seem to accumulate here so effortlessly. You should know that our
Director has reserved a special shelf in his own office for the display of the specimens you have
previously submitted to the Institution, and the entire staff speculates daily on what you will happen
upon next in your digs at the site you have discovered in your back yard. We eagerly anticipate
your trip to our nation's capital that you proposed in your last letter, and several of us are pressing
the Director to pay for it. We are particularly interested in hearing you expand on your theories
surrounding the "trans-positating fillifitation of ferrous ions in a structural matrix" that makes the
excellent juvenile Tyrannosaurus rex femur you recently submitted a Craftsman automotive crescent
wrench.
Yours in Science,
Harvey Rowe
Curator, Antiquities
mr mattson,
i have an idea and i would like to hear your response about the idea.
the idea is how to some materials' around a office and home to help students in strengthening their
hands and grip in doing "kame".
around my office we have a printer that has paper on rolls and at the ends of the tubes are caps.
using the caps and a bungee cord (you take the bungee cord loop the cord through the cap; then
hook the end of the bungee cord to the loop; then pull to fasten). this will be a isometric kame.
then by placing your hand around each end as you would the clay jars. then pull each end. you can
make it harder to pull by placing more or stronger cords on the caps.
this is simple to make after you get the material.
i have other ideas to tell you when i have more time.
thank you for your time and i hope you like the idea.
sincerely
charles
And here is another tip from Charles:
mr mattson,
hi!
how is everything; i hope everything is fine.
i have another idea to share with you.
there is a therapeutic rubber band(gray in color) can be used to do
dynamic tension sanchin.
just wrap one end around one of your hands' then around the other and
then place it around your lower back.
now do sanchin.
this will increase muscle mass.
you can get the therapeutic bands in different strengths and you make it
as short as you want to fit your size.
by using this idea it make everyone do the dynamic tension to their ability.
mr mattson try it and see how you like the idea.
i hope you will like the idea.
thank you for your time.
charles roberts
Thanks for the tips Charles. Keep them coming. GEM
Sensei Mattson,
I have attached an earlier letter and I believe that I can be of some help. I do not know if any one
has followed up on this query, however, I was a student of a Pangai-noon school in south Florida
for a number of years and may be able to determine other such schools (if they exist) and how
many. I do know that at one point there were approximately three-four schools around the U.S.
--
Servio F. Medina
sfm@math.ufl.edu If there is a way, I've got the will
http://www.math.ufl.edu/~sfm
--sfm
Are you still practicing? If you get a chance, drop in the "chat" page during a scheduled
"gathering" and say hello.
Well, yes and no. I was tested (if not officially accredited) for shodan in Uechi-Ryu. I earned a
shodan in Shorin-Ryu last summer, and I currently hold a yellow belt (somthing or other -kyu) in
Goshin Jitsu. So I practice the fundamentals if not the specifics of Uechi-Ryu (I believe I read
somewhere that the founder of Shorin-Ryu, whose name escapes me, used to train with Kanbun
Uechi-osensi).
My Goshin Jitsu sensi calls me "Mighty Oak" as joke, due to my rigidly flexible stance and sparring
technique. 'Course I'm the only one who does *not* strap on shin pads for sparring, thanks to
years of koteketai. And I drive them crazy because they can't bend my arms (easily).
"See" you at the dojo roundtable,
Mike
Mike Aref m-aref@uiuc.edu
Graduate Research Assistant 1307 West Park St. #205
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Urbana, IL 61801
Department of Nuclear Engineering Phone: 217.333.3161
http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~m-aref
Michael Aref = Mike Aref = MA = Sum of external forces = m dv/dt = dp/dt
"I'm a forceful guy, with a momentous personality"
Mr. Mattson,
I am an instructor of Uechi-Ryu in Atlanta GA. I studied under Bob Blaisdell for about ten year in
Massachusetts before recently moving to Georgia. My rank is nidan. When I arrived in Georgia I
searched for schools teaching Uechi and found none, and I was not impressed with the local styles
being taught. That is when I decided to start my own school in Woodstock Ga.
I currently only have about ten students, but teaching has taught me the importance of the
fundementals of Uechi-ryu.
While living in Mass. I was privaledged to glance at a book you wrote. I think it was printed
around 1974. The book's name, I think, was called Uechi-Ryu Karate Do Classical Chinese
Okinawan Self Defense. This book had great information that would be beneficial in my training
and teaching skills. Further, I would appreciate any information that could help me. I would also
like to know were I could order Uechi related materials of any kind that could be beneficial to
myself and my students. Sincerely,
Robert Waters
Please check out the "Products" page for a listing of books and videos. Thanks for the kind
words. Stay in touch. GEM
Hi Mr. Mattson:
I must confess to some surprise over the response to my question/observation.
While I find the history of the change to the third movement of Dan Kumite to interesting, I am still
looking for some rationale for practicing the movement at all. Mr. Glasheen seems to suggest that
focusing on the kicking attacker, and understanding that how one executes a block against the front
kick is of little moment from the attacker's perspective still leaves me questioning the wisdom of the
movement from the defender's perspective. As Mr. Glasheen has observed, the slightest angling off
by the kicker following the execution of the circle block against the initial punch places the person
blocking the kick in the position of transitioning across both one's own, as well the kicker's center
line in order to execute the down block. Given the genius and insight of Kanei Uechi, to say that the
drill is merely drama, and move on, seems no explanation at all.
As I have struggled with this movement, I have often thought the only way one may justify its use is
to refocus one's perception as to the nature of a down block. As Mr. Thompson once pointed out,
the translation of gedan barrai, is not down block. It means,as he explained it, to sweep. If that is
the case, then I can justify the third movement by not focusing on the left arm, but rather on the right
arm. If the initial attacker, the person throwing the first punch, drops the right arm and sweeps the
kick toward the block of the left arm, the movement makes some sense. Without this preliminary
contact of the right arm, however, the movement seems to me to be without much application or
insight for those of us who lack the genitic gifts of athletes and natural fighters. I might also observe,
that the only way this technique works for me, is to also look at the kata, and note that in Uechi a
down block is never executed in san chin, it is always done in a low stance.
Again, if one lowers one's stance while sweeping the front kick, the movement seems consistent
with san chin and the other kata of Uechi Ryu.
Anyway, I hope I haven't gotten anyone's gi pants in a twist. I am certainly not the most genetically
gifted fighter, so perhaps I do look to san chin and the kata for explanations more than those who
have these gifts. Thanks to Mr. Glasheen for his insight, and to you Mr. Mattson for the opportunity
to share thoughts with others. Peace.
Robb in Sacramento.
Dear George:
I was reading the mail for February, I guess i am not alone in not being able to log onto the Chat
Page. I thought it was just me, and my older system. I hope the problem is solved, soon.
Take Care: Jay Sal
We are getting lots of people who are able to use the chatpage. It may be your browser. You need to have one that supports Java. Good luck. GEM
Dear GMattson,
I have been a student of the martial arts for 14 years now, just recently I have started to study
weapons and was woundering if you knew of any qualified students in my area to teach. I live in the
Sunrise(Fort Lauderdale) area of Florida. If you can give me any information I would be very
thankful.
VYQN63A at Prodogy
Luis A. Otero
From: Lori Claymont \ Internet: (lclaymont@mindspring.com)
Subject: Karate Classes In Manhattan
Could you please recommend, or direct me as to how to find, a reputable karate class in
Manhattan for an adult beginner (female, 38). I would prefer the emphasis to be on self-defense.
Thank you in advance for your time and assistance.
uechi-ryu training period in france :
sunday 23 march 1997 : cosec de la noue lutel 10300
sainte-savine france
with : takemi takayasu 7ème dan and huart gérald
renseignements : huart gérald tel: 03 25 79 97 01
or : 06 09 83 26 68
and please , rectified my telephone number in uechi-ryu dojo , country and state :
FRANCE : TAKEMI TAKAYASU : 01 48 68 06 38
HUART GERALD : 03 25 79 97 01
or : 06 09 83 26 68
and new address : 15 rue Pasteur
10440 LA
RIVIERE DE CORPS
FRANCE
THANK YOU
Our website has been taking some "shots" from people who believe the programs don't work or windows don't view. The following post from Bill Glasheen may be the start of a "thread" on computer technology as it relates to our site. Hopefully some of our resident experts will be able to continue this discussion. Perhaps we can start a q&a section where specific problems can be covered. I know one thing. . . I'll be first in line looking for Java/CGI help! GEM
George
1) Got Cool Talk as an add on to downloading 32 bit Netscape 3.01. Ran the diagnostics, and
found out I had a 16 bit, half duplex board. Also found out that the mike port doesn't work. My
computer buddies promised to get me a good 32 bit board when they come to install my network
cards. Yes, we are networking in our house; best way to handle several computers and several
users vs limited peripheral resources.
BTW, also got an interesting 3D viewing software package with the Netscape group. Allows you
to look around (top, bottom, left, right, etc) a 3D image by moving the mouse around. Too bad I
only have one image to view. Could come in handy one day when we want to record people doing
forms and techniques. Sigh....boys & their toys.
2) Remember my trashing VCU/MCV about their exclusive arrangements? Some of it was
deserved. However there was one issue about them not being compatible with MS IExplorer
because of an XOVER command. Got the following back today:
Return-Path: fritz@Gems.VCU.EDU
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 16:47:45 -0500 (EST)
From: "J.E. Fritz" <fritz@Gems.VCU.EDU>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: newsgroups at MCV], config ?
Sender: fritz@Gems.VCU.EDU
To: "William P. Glasheen, Ph.D." <glasheen@trigon.com>
> Interesting that your system is incompatible with the web browser from that
> small company called Microsoft.
>
> Any changes in the future?
Yes, we are running rather old stuff. By this summer we hope to be
cut over to a different news server with modern software.
-Fritz
It took a long time to get to a person who could both answer my questions and give perspective.
Once I got to a reasonable and knowledgeable person, I realized that we all are swimming against
the current these days. Now on the NAC Homepage end user side of things, I think it incumbent
on us to be as encouraging and informative as possible. I have been helping my wife and a number
of her classmates get up to speed with their various bag of hardware/software components vs the
VCU/MCV information behemouth. It's a nightmare! It's bad enough that the equipment out there
is so variable let alone the fact that VCU is operating on a number of different platforms with
various levels of compatibility and ages of equipment. I think it's great that NAC is pushing the
envelope, but we obviously need to keep a lowest common denominator available to all possible
NAC members online. BILL
Hi! George,
Thanks for confirming what I already new and the led to additional info concerning training. I'm not
quite as naive as I may sound. My injury rate is due to my own fault not my instructor... Mid-life
crisis, trying to keep up with the young studs... Stupid!... not naive :o)
Good talking to you and thanks again.....
Tom Files
George
I read the letter from Robb in Sacramento, and felt a need to offer some information. First of all,
Robb has an active mind. I have struggled with all the very issues he mentions, and have reached
resolutions. I will share some of my thoughts in hopes that they are helpful to Robb.
Issue 1:
"Sorry for the lack of segue, but I have never thought the revised third movement of Dan Kumite made much
sense, and frankly, I don't see it in any of the kata. Why on earth would one want to go to an inside block from
the attacker's position following the punch? It makes no sense."
I agree fully with George's response about how Kanei wanted to change the technique because too
many people were getting injured by the spinning left hook kick (version 1) and spinning left side
kick (version 2). I also agree with George that the Okinawan response to the situation - don't
practice the defense - was....short-sighted. For God sake if the block doesn't work, change the
block! Down where we are Taekwondo is king. If you can't block this kick, you are cooked. The
real problem is that the person executing the kick could place the back of the knee at the point of
contact of the cross block, and whip the heel around the "corner" with a hamstring contraction. I
personally have accidentally laid a few people out with the technique (unintentionally) until I
discovered an alternative block...in a Taekwondo dojo. I was watching a TKD master teach a
class once, and he showed this double verticle arm position as the standard block for the technique.
The second arm kept the kicker from whipping the leg around the first. And guess what - it was the
plain-vanilla Sanchin kata posture (only the TKD master would never call it that). So, Robb, who
says we don't use Sanchin?
Now I agree with Robb about the "version 3" of Dan Kumite number 3 done today in Okinawa. It
doesn't seem to make sense to offer opportunity by inviting the roundhouse after doing the inside
block to the first front kick - unless of course you happen to face TKD kickers who love to spin
around. Furthermore if the defender diagonalizes ever so slightly on the first right block, then it
seems very unnatural to ignore the right hand block which is closest to the opponent, and instead
step/reorient all the way back to where one can do a left inside block.
Then again consider this, Robb. Firstly, kumites are drama: we act out a specific scenario and then
learn the techniques to respond to it. If I were the attacker and stepped through with a punch and
noticed my opponent had defended and was ready to counter, my first reaction would be "Oh,
s---" and I would immediately try to bail out. I tell the attackers to punch-and-run. Now if I was
stepping back away into the left sanchin and THEN the opponent executed the right front kick, by
then my left hand would be forward, and it would make sense to block with the left hand EVEN
THOUGH it is an inside block. If the opponent is firing the front kick too quickly after the punch,
well the fault is with the attacker. PUNCH STRONGER and you will buy yourself enough time to
bail out.
Finally, consider the role of the opponent (kicker) here. If I'm a kicking specialist that flows well
and you do a low block of my front kick, I really don't care which direction you block me. Do an
inside block and I'll flow to the roundhose. Do an outside block and I'll spin around and hit you
with a hook kick, a side kick, or a back fist. As a Uechi fighter I need to understand and
experience both possibilities from the defensive end. Often my students will make a mistake and
block with the wrong hand. Initially the person working with them will ignore where they have been
given energy, and force the "correct" second kick on the situation. At that point I stop everything
and explain that these exercises must feel natural and flow or not done at all. If someone means for
me to follow with a round kick but blocks my first front kick on the outside -- too bad! I will come
around with a CONTROLLED spinning technique (usually a side kick) to make the point and help
them develop natural reflexes. Both sequences work, both have their applications, and ideally both
should be practiced in the same kumite.
Issue 2:
"I don't see many folks using a San Chin stance, let alone San Chin principles when they spar. Is it that many
peole feel no connection between San Chin, the other kata and the kumite."
I will make some statements and hopefully Rob will be able to figure out why I take the positions I
do.
If you want your students to ignore sanchin, and look like Generic American McKarate, then do
the following:
1) Spar as soon as possible
2) Never do bunkai of your kata
3) Forget doing prearranged kumite
4) Spar using a point style format
5) Never do multiple opponent sparring
6) Don't allow grabbling
7) Don't allow throwing
8) Don't allow leg kicks
If you want your students to naturally gravitate to sanchin, then do the following:
1) Don't allow sparring until students have successfully passed tests for sanchin, kanshiwa,
kanshiwa bunkai, kyu kumite, kotekitae, and basic falling technique
2) Do bunkai often. Make up bunkai for kata and hojoundo that don't have them. Require people
to test for them and grade them low if they do poorly on them (which means their first sparring
match will be delayed)
3) Practice prearranged kumite often and have the instructor work with the students on them. Test
often and with great discrimination.
4) Spar using a continuous technique format (like with the new format for our yearly tournament).
5) Have advanced students fight multiple opponents. There are also a number of games that can be
played in a multiple partner format.
6) Allow grabbing in sparring. If you do a point format, give extra credit for a "controlling"
technique.
7) Practice throws and grappling (with proper equipment and supervision)
8) Allow leg kicks (touch contact, away from knees) and sweeps
Now you tell me - which set of training formats would, on a first principles basis, produce the
better fighter (not tournament sparrer)?
Hope all this helps. Keep the faith and the questions!
Bill Glasheen
George
Saw the letter from Sandy Chapman about not being able to sign onto the Chat page. She is not
speaking with forked tongue or operating with a short between the headsets!
At both work and home I have my MindSpring account with web browser. My work machine has
Windows For Workgroups 3.1, and my home machine has Windows 95. MindSpring gave me 16
bit software with Netscape for my WFW machine at work, and I got a CD which loaded the 32 bit
software with MS Internet Explorer for W95 at home. Both browsers have been updated to the
most recent version available on-line as of 2/4/97.
I can't explain why, but on my 16 bit/Netscape 3.0 browser, I cannot see anything on the Chat
page other than a request to leave the name at the bottom (but no place to enter it). However on
my 32 bit/MS Internet Explorer browser, I see everything I need to see, and can function just fine
(as you witnessed late last Feb 2nd).
But for those who might think MS Internet Explorer is now the cat's meow, hold your paws.
Apparently Virginia Commonwealth University / Medical College of Virginia got an exclusive
arrangement with several vendors. They do Pepsi but not Coke. They do WordPerfect but not MS
Word. And they Do Netscape and NOTHING ELSE. Undoubtedly their palms are being warmed
with the green stuff for the arrangement which makes you have to walk several blocks to get a
Coke. Anyhow they have rigged their Newsgroups so that the use of MS Internet Explorer causes
an "XOVER statement incompatible" error. Consultants in the information center are
unsympathetic.
I think we need to reassess the hardware/software compatibility issues so we can bring all these
eager and able participants on board! I also think we need to do our part to roast any vendor that
intentionally creates incompatibilities with their competitors.
Oh, and thanks to Sandy for validating what I discovered.
Bill Glasheen
George
It seems that the 32 bit browser software is the key. [Regarding access of the Chat Program] I
stayed on late last night and followed the testing to all possible permutations.
When I speak of 16 bit vs 32 bit software, I am of course referring to the browser software that is
appropriate for Windows 3.1 vs Windows 95 or NT (or OS2). 16 bit Netscape cannot recognize
most of the Chat page (page is just plain invisible except for the text at top telling you to enter name
on the bottom. 16 bit Netscape also blows up when you want to put in an entry on the dojo
roundtable. However both 32 bit Netscape and 32 bit MS Internet Explorer work and function
well on both the Chat page and the dojo forum. The length of response on the forum is still an issue,
but at least you get a second chance to edit the message down. I was not able to get 16 bit
Netscape version 3 to work any better than 16 bit Netscape version 2 on these problems.
As we discussed last night on the Chat page, it seems that technology is pushing ahead and ignoring
those who choose not to upgrade. JAVA could be the piece that is tripping all the old software up.
In any case it appears that many will not be able to avoid upgrading to Windows 95 or Windows
NT if they want to stay on line. On the brighter side, all the browser software I got to test came off
the Net for free, and both worked OK with my online subscriber service (MindSpring). Although
the buttons on my MindSpring account were set up for MS Explorer, I just signed onto the service,
minimized the window, and then booted up Netscape and everything worked just fine. And as
much as the transition to a new operating system creates pains, they are after all the first operating
systems (along with OS2) to take full advantage of all 32 bits that the CPUs have had available for
years. As they say when the baby gets a little ripe, may be time for a change.
Bill Glasheen
Thought you might enjoy the following: GEM
One test is worth a thousand expert opinions." --Bill Nye the Science Guy
Summary of this issue:
* Whats new at Brain Dancing Online
* Making the Most of the Internet Information Ocean
* Stress and Adaptive Energy
* Q&A on the Creative Process
* Stress and Adaptive Energy
* Cool Self-Development Articles
* Marketing Message
What's New
* ActiveX/VB Script driven web pages for:
Improving your ability to remember visual images.
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Stepping you through the process of taking complete breaths.
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* This Weeks Vitamin T (T is for Thought). Heres an excerpt:
Habit formation: A sign at the entrance of what was a very muddy
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in them for the next 7 miles." Choose your habits wisely.
--Pastor
Bob Moorhead
http://www.bdance.com/bdance/vitamint.htm
Making the Most of the Internet Information Ocean
You may have noticed some of the recent backlash regarding the Internet as a time waster. This
reminds me of a question I once asked Anthony Robbins. "How can I silence this voice inside my
head which seems to analyze everything I do as I am doing it?" He responded with something like:
"Rather than eliminate a resource, it is usually much wiser to figure out a way to use it to your
advantage." The Internet represents an unprecedented information resource to those who learn how
to use it to their advantage. Doing this requires extreme clarity on exactly what represents "useful"
information, as opposed to merely interesting.
It also helps to remember the two basic strategies discussed in Brain Dancing for interacting with
any information ocean: with a specific purpose in mind (left brain), and looking for the unexpected
(right brain). I point out that when looking for the unexpected (surfing), it is important to set time
limits because the right brain is not aware of linear time, and there is no feedback mechanism for
telling you when you are done--when the problem is solved. With the Internet, it is also necessary
to set time limits when operating in left brain mode. Even with the vast quantity of information
currently on the Internet, it still contains only a fraction of our total knowledge. In other words,
there is no guarantee that the information you need is even on the Internet. For this reason, I believe
that for many of us, the most useful information on the Internet has been, and will remain (at least
for a while), information about the Internet--information that teaches how to use and create the
Internet.
Q&A on the Creative Process
I recently received an email from a country songwriter in Nashville that inspired the following
response regarding his exploration of how to optimize the process of song writing:
I just heard my tape of a Paul McCartney interview done about 14 years ago. He said that when he
and John decided to start the group, they sat down and wrote about 50 songs. Only one of them
ever got produced: "Love Me Do". "The rest just vanished in time", he said. What struck me about
this was number of songs they were willing to write experimentally. I get the impression that they
had a process for writing songs that had a definite ending to it. Idea->expression->done,
idea->expression->done, etc. The result was rather than endlessly tweaking a few songs, they were
able to optimize this process and therefore do it successfully a large number of times. Rather than
trying to write great songs immediately, the were willing to experiment: this helped them optimize
the process and get feedback from others about various approaches.
The bottom line is identifying your core activity, and then structuring your time for maximum
concentration of power in that area.
Stress and Adaptive Energy
In his classic book, Stress Without Distress, Hans Selye, M.D., writes, "I think we have to begin
by clearly realizing that work is a biological necessity." It creates stress, which brings with it the
need to adapt. "..our brain slips into chaos and confusion unless we constantly use it for some work
that seems worthwhile to us." Witness the American astronaut who could not even walk after
spending a few months aboard the gravity free space station.
Dr. Selye recommends managing the use of our adaptive energy--energy which can be used to
adapt to events that have an impact on our lives. He recommends eliminating the need for
frustrating constant readaptation that is the major cause of distress (harmful, unpleasant stress), by
creating an environment in line with your innate preferences. Look for activities in your life that are
causing an excessive drain on your adaptive energy, and consider ways of minimizing or eliminating
this drain. For example, I believe that driving on freeways (especially during rush hour), requires
more adaptive energy that many people realize. Designing my commutes so they can be done on
back roads during non-rush hours has freed up adaptive energy for more creative use. We need
stress; we need circumstances that force us to respond creatively; we dont need so many
demands on this adaptive response that our overall adaptive capacity is diffused. The journey can
be challenging AND fun.
Cool Self-Development Articles
The Slight Edge, The Success System for the Rest of Us, By Jeff Olson, CEO of The Peoples
Network. http://ThePeoplesNetwork.Net/edge.html
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Until next time, ptm, http://www.bdance.com/bdance
Thank you referring this newsletter and website to your associates.
Copyright 1997 by Patrick Magee. Used with Permission.
Subject: Dojo Roundtable
Mattson-sensei,
I believe I set up an "account" for reading and contributing to the Uechi "dojo roundtable". For the
life of I cannot remember what my login or password were (probably to many headshots ;) ). I did
it sometime last year. Although you probably don't remember it, you corrected my San Chin once
at Rod Mindlin's dojo in Cardiff, California, I was about 13 then (I'm 21 now). I was a tall, skinny
blond kid (still am), and I did San Chin, and you said, "That was almost perfect, but since nobody
does San Chin prefectly, let's work on the beginning." That's a big deal when your a kid known for
his unusually large and uncoordinated arm movements that either swats a friend in the face or pulls
down his mom's china.
Mike
Mike Aref
I have to keep a book with all my passwords, so can understand your forgetting yours. I
don't have access to passwords, so the best thing to do is re-register.
Are you still practicing? If you get a chance, drop in the "chat" page during a scheduled
"gathering" and say hello. GEM
Subject: Dan Kumite -- San Chin
Dear George,
Your online magazine is a wonderful source of information -- especially for those of us who don't
get around much. I appreciate your willingness to post notices and articles from all Uechi students.
Thanks to a visit to your school in 1977, I was introduced to Charles Earle.
It has been my priviledge to have trained with him over the last twenty years, and I have enjoyed
his vists to California and my visits to Providence. With the emergence of Allan Dollar's school in
Antioch, the efforts of Don Uttenrither and Brian DeMent in Porterville (especially their
sponsorship of visits by Mr. Thompson), and the willingness of all the instructors in California to
share with one another over the years, I have had an opportunity to meet and train with some truly
exceptional men and women. More recently, I have been blessed with the presence of Dr. Joan
Niede at CSU, Sacramento, and of Sensei Steve Harrigton in Rocklin. I have been able to work
with both of these remarkalbe people to gain further insight into Uechi Ryu.
Sorry for the lack of segue, but I have never thought the revised third movement of Dan Kumite
made much sense, and frankly, I don't see it in any of the kata. Why on earth would one want to go
to an inside block from the attacker's position following the punch? It makes no sense. Second,
what is going on with people ignoring San Chin. My first instructor, Johnny Author, told me
everything was in San Chin. I seem to recall you expressing a similar sentiment. The longer I train,
the more I believe the statement to be correct. This is really a pretty simple style, if one does San
Chin. So what's up with all the bouncing, and the sparring and the general push toward looking like
every other style when we spar approach that many people seem to be taking. I don't see many
folks using a San Chin stance, let alone San Chin principles when they spar. Is it that many peole
feel no connection between San Chin, the other kata and the kumite. How can this be? Why would
we do San Chin at all if it wasn't leading us to a higher form of individual harmony and self defense.
Oh, well, just a couple of observations. I hope you are in good health. Peace
Robb in Sacramento.
Thanks for the nice comments Robert. I'm pleased that you are participating in the
exploration of our style with excellent points regarding how people study.
I'll address only one point, in the hope that others will jump in with their viewpoints.
The change in Dan Kumite. First, I'll address the history of the move and the change:
According to Grandmaster Kanei Uechi, there were too many injuries happening by
practicing the spinning kick attack and defense. (the original way) Additionally, many of the
seniors believed that a technique (spinning kick) which is not part of our style, should not be
in any of the formal system. The change, to a front kick followed with a front "hooking"
kick, was considered safer and more "traditional" Uechi-ryu.
Ironically, Charles Earle and I were on Okinawa filming the famous and much "bootlegged"
1964-65 Uechi tapes when the "Dan Kumite" was introduced. On the film, we are shown
going through it for the first time.
Now, to my personal opinion: The practice of Uechi-ryu should practically evolve and I fully
agree with your statements regarding "all is in Sanchin". When students and teachers don't
have confidence in what they are doing, they will "borrow" from other styles and rely on
what they were doing before, which may look like "street fighting". It seems silly to spend
years practicing Uechi-ryu, then spar using Taekwondo stances! On the other hand, this is
not the case so much these last 10-15 years. If anything, other styles are "borrowing" our
techniques, because they work! I also believe that the new Uechi Championship Series
tournament rules encourages the use of good techniques that come from our style.
But on the other hand, if you never defend yourself against a spinning back kick, or a high,
hooking kick to the head, you will probably not be able to defend yourself against one in a
real fight. I believe that our formal drills and prearranged kumite should address a wide
range of potential attacks. Working with them, using Uechi defensive techniques, will give
the student confidence and skill in handling them in a tournament or real fight. For this
reason, NAC re-introduced the "old" spinning-kick set, back into "dan kumite" about 10
years ago. It is done only once, on the 2nd half of the drill.
I'm sure we will hear from others on this important subject. Thanks for writing Robert, and
lets hear from you more often. GEM
Subject: Conditioning
Hi! George,
Thanks for the lead. I appreciate it..... Got another question for you. I know your system spends a
great deal of time conditioning your striking and blocking weapons, the arms and legs. Thats a
continual problem for me personally...I've suffered several operations to correct injuries that feel
were the direct result of not having properly conditioned my hands, wrists, forearms, feet, legs...
Are the number and type of injuries reduced by Uechi conditioning techniques? I'm a 44 year old
guy and I'm REAL tired of having to take time off work to recooperate from "another" karate
incident. So far I have 2 broken ribs on the left side, 2 ribs broken on the right side, both big toes
broken several times, both wrists broken, numerous fingers broken, both shoulders separated, not
to mention the golf ball sized goose eggs that routinely show up on my forearms from blocking.
Those are from my Shotokan days at Sensei Kenneth Funakoshi's dojo in San Jose. As my training
progresses in Goju, I know there will be a time that I'm expected to engage in sparing. That's fine I
like that aspect but, on the other hand I don't feel like another trip the orthopedic surgeon. I've paid
my doc for enough trips to Hawaii ***Ha*** So, if you have any ideas on how to condition my
self to minimize the problem I would be gratefull.
Thanks...Tom Files
Interesting question. If you have the chance, read George Chaplin's article on correct
conditioning in Uechi-ryu. (in the "articles" section) Bottom line. . . the Uechi style develops
body conditioning as part of the kata training. Sanchin is the key to this training. The extra
body conditioning that is part of the training, helps the process. The key to any training,
most especially the Uechi conditioning, is doing it correctly and slowly. And during the
process, being very careful not to engage in hard contact. After 3-4 careful years of correct
training, you should be able to take most common "hits" associated with full speed sparring
without injury.
I'm not a doctor, but we have quite a few who visit this site. They may wish to discuss other
factors that enter into the conditioning equation, such as body type and bone makeup which
I'm not qualified to discuss. After nearly 40 years, I've seen many students who train
properly and still are easily injured. . . and others who seem invincible, without any
conditioning. . . Perhaps the Uechi conditioning will help those of us who are not blessed
with "unbreakable" bones, to supplement the proper blocking techniques, timing, distancing
and other defensive skills that come from our training.
Regarding sparring in your dojo. Remember that ultimately, you are responsible for yourself.
If you spar too soon and get injured, your instructor will not support your family and pay
your mortgage. Most responsible dojo teach sparring as they teach kata. . . . carefully! There
is a lot of common sense involved with teaching. Essentially, you learn to walk before
running. I am very suspicious of dojo that have a high injury rate. You should be as well.
GEM
Just a quick question - when I check on the chat page...it gives me no place to type my name. Is
this incompatable with Netscape? We're trying to get Dave Moyle online too - so if Netscape
won't work, we'll get ahold of another browser for him.
Thanks much!
Sandy Chapman
(from the frozen Upper Peninsula of Michigan....with more snow forcast for today!!!)
Must be all that snow causing the trouble!!! I've spent many hours researching the various
chat programs out there, and the one I've finally selected for the time being, is really easy.
However, with computers, Murphy's Law will alway prevail. . . My only advice is to try
again. The program is there, all you have to do is click on the "Chat Page" from the table of
contents, wait til the program loads (a few seconds, depending on your modem speed,
browser and service) then sign in and begin "chatting". Even if no one is on-line, leave a
message, saying when you will be back. The biggest problem is getting people to use the
program at the same time! I'm recommending that you try at the beginning of the hour. Then
stay around a few minutes. It is important that after loggin in, to leave a message, otherwise
other "lurkers" will assume no one is there, when in fact there are. I keep the chat page
open whenever I'm working on the computer and will be happy to say hello if you drop by.
GEM
Dear Sensei Mattson,
Here are a couple of quotes of potential interest to martial artists:
"Despite the huge cultural differences between a Sufi master, a yogi, a Christian saint, and a
Chinese martial artist of the highest proficiency, all can perceive spirit as clearly as you or I can see
the earth and sky."
"You are not going to follow a path that doesn't feel natural for very long, nor will it bring the
growth you need, however well intentioned you are."
Deepak Chopra. "The path to love - Renewing the power of spirit in your life." Harmony Books,
New York. 1997. ISBN 0-517-70622-9
Cheers,
John.
Hi George,
As promised, here I am and doing much better, gaining strength everyday. Hope to be able to get
around to see people, maybe around mid March. Please advise all my Uechi friends my progress is
fantastic. Much of this is due to Uechi spirit and all the hard training. I'll be in touch often. Don't
forget our golf date. My best to Susan.
Bill Bauknecht
Great to hear from you Bill and learn of your continued progress. We all are rooting for you and looking forward seeing you back in the dojo and on the golf course. GEM
Hi! George,
I spoke with you once before concerning one of your articles. Since then I've had the opportunity
to read another. Your very interesting and insightful. I don't practice your style but the simularities
between Goju and Uechi are considerable. I guess when one takes the time to dissect all karate
styles, that claim to have originated from Okinawa, there's are bound to be a closeness. My sensi,
Jim Hunter, and I have long conversations about the connection between China and Karate.
Recently we discovered White Crane. Lot's of bells went off. It may not be the parent but at least a
1st cousin. Have you explored the connection or is it of interest?
Are you still actively training? Have a dojo that kind of thing? I live in the Grass Valley area, as I
remember you in San Francisco. Not too far maybe I'll run into you someday.
Sincerely, Tom Files
Our organization has been researching and exploring the links between Okinawan karate
and its relationship to China for many years. Check out the early Summer Camp videos
(especially the 83-84 VidMag) and the Simon Lailey interview/demo tape. (VidMag #6) We
also run many seminars at our annual camp (2nd weekend in Aug) exploring the
connections. We try to bring in at least one guest from China who can lend a new and
possibly new perspective to this fascinating subject. I'm still 100% active, teaching many
seminars and classes throughout North America. When in town, I work out at my Newton
MA dojo on Saturdays from 10-12noon. GEM
Thanks for your note.
We have indeed received the videos and we have enjoyed all of them. Thanks!
Also, I wanted to say how much I enjoyed "Scissors, Paper, Rock". I couldn't put down.
I have passed on your advice that the Certificates are on their way.
Johnny Hatt was in a serious car accident. He suffered a broken neck and has (temporary, we
hope) memory deficits, both short and long term. He is lucky to be alive. He was at proceeding
through an intersection, when another vehicle ran the red light and struck the left/front of his car.
Johnny is in a "halo" for 13 weeks and then a hard collar for 8. We are all grateful it wasn't more
serious.
I will be dragging him (and others) to summer camp.
We are in the midst of a snow storm and Jeannie wants to go out for lunch. She sends her best.
Talk to you both soon. Take care!
Brian Bailey [Dartmouth N.S.]
Sorry to hear about Johnny. Please give him our very best wishes for a speedy recovery.
Harvey also thanks you for the wonderful review of his new book. GEM
A very good day to you Mr. Mattson ,
My name is Dragan Simic and I live in Rotterdam , Holland .
I come from what was once Yugoslavia , but am now also a citizen of Holand as I have lived here
for a few years .
I have 1 Dan in Shohei-ryu . I am at the moment very busy trying to open a Dojo here in
Rotterdam . It will not be easy since I am alone but I have a great wish to do so ! I hope I can
begin within a month or two as soon as all my paperwork and advertising is done .
I have discovered the Shoheiryu sight on internet and so got in touch with Gordi-san for which I am
very greatful . It is great to be "direct on line " and Gordi -san is very kind .
He has asked me to send you an e-mail , to get in touch and so you can put my e-mail address on
your "Dojo Listing" so that anyone coming to Holland can look me up for a workout , and in any
case to know that Shoheiryu "lives in Holland "too!
Best regards !!
Dragan
malecka@worldaccess.nl
Always a pleasure to meet new Uechi/Shohei-ryu students and help introduce you to others.
Keep in touch and let us know how your plans for a dojo are progressing. GEM
I thank you for sending the small order I had placed with you in January. As you can see, I'm finally
on-line. I've decided to try AOL with their 50 free hours, so far so good. If you need to reach me,
the e-mail address ILUECHI1@AOL.COM.
=======Good luck with aol. Lots of trouble, but if they survive their latest problems, they
could be a winner.====
I have a couple of questions regarding Dan Kunite. On the third series, should the first circular
block be a left or a right?
=====As with most of the bunkai/kumite material, lots of different and correct ways of
doing the moves. I prefer on the 3rd move: Student A (SA): begin in left sanchin. Steps
forward while attacking with a right punch to Student B (SB) SB: begins in right sanchin.
Step back w/ right leg, blocking w/ right (outside) circle block. SB Counterattacks with a
front right kick to partner, which SA blocks with a downward inside left block. SB continues
counterattacking with a second "hooking" high kick, which SA blocks using a Uechi "cross
block", while maintaining correct distance with sliding moves or steps. On the second
go-round, NAC is recommending the use of the older version spinning kick
sequence.=======
Also on the fourth series, on the final counterattack, a right punch, should the student step through
with the punch, ending into a right, or should the student stay in a left sanchin stance and deliver the
right punch?
========The best advice is to use common sense. Maintain a proper distance to your
opponent/partner. Generally, if the series of movements are performed properly, there is no
need to step-in. At most, a sliding step will close whatever gap remains after the block.
=========
Could you please inform me on the current NAC standards on both these issues.
I looked in both the Black-Belt test guide and The Uechi-ryu Karate Do Manual
and getting conflicting answers.
The karate school is doing great. I'm looking for a larger location since the current one isn't large
enough to hold the increasing size of the classes.
Please say hello to Susan for me and hope to hear from you soon. Thank you,
Brian Boelke.
Dear Mr. Mattson,
I recently browsed through mailto:GMattson@usa1.com and was impressed with your home page.
Our organization is called the American Self-Defense Institute. The concept of ASDI is to educate
our members and the public at large to increase their personal awareness of crime prevention and
self defense. We believe your organization could contribute and benefit by giving our members
access to different methods of counseling and self-defense.
We invite you to browse our homepage located at: http://www.americanselfdefense.com, and if you
are interested, join as an annual business member of our organization.
We would like to list your pages in the self-defense category of our personal safety mall and have
you use our "Personal Safety Site" award logo on your homepage.
Again, my compliments on your web pages and I look forward to hearing from you.
Sincerely,
Delia Kaba
Assistant to the Director
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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"Education, Training and Legal Assistance For People Who Realize That They
Are Responsible For Their Own Defense and That Of Their Loved Ones"
P.O. Box 430 * Whitefish, MT 59937
Phone 406.862.9667 * Facsimile 406.862.4733
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Hi George,
In case someone asks, I have placed below the info for individual
subscriptions and for dojo Bulk orders of Bugeisha.
Thanks,'
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Subject: Regarding Mr. Liu and Feeding Crane
Mr. Mattson:
I heard recently that you hosted a seminar by a teacher of Feeding Crane Gongfu -- I believe his
name was Mr. Liu.
I am very interested in Feeding Crane, and I am eager to locate books and teachers from whom I
can research the system.
Can you help with a contact address or number for Mr. Liu or for students of his in the United
States?
Yoroshiku,
Rich Boyden
Dragon Times did an article on him last issue. Also mentioned a video tape available. If you
need any help locating Dragon Times, email me again.
We are hoping to get Mr. Liu back this year. Depends on his schedule. Hope you can make it
in any event. GEM
Subject: Great site George
Its Dan Quinn sounding from sunny South Florida. I trained in NY with
Chris Ronzoni, Dave Finkelstein, Jay Nussbaum and Nancy Simoneschi.
The site looks Great.
Thanks for the nice review Dan. Are you still training? Teaching? Please stay in touch.
Should have the Uechi Chat page up soon. Watch for the scheduled seminars, gatherings,
etc. and please participate. GEM
[more from Dan]
Am I still training...No. Not since I left NY several years ago.
I had a personal set-back and I started a new business that has taken much
of my time. I would like to get back into training. I look forward to
your chat page soon.
I am in North Palm Beach, if you know of any teachers in this area.
Hope to hear from you soon.
Dan
George,
I just thought of something. As you may know, because of my chronic back and various other
joints, I've spent a lot of time studying with flexibility specialists. This past November, at the
suggestion of an old friend who is a doctor in Tampa, I went to spend a week working with a guy
down there. Simply put, he was so far out of the league of anyone else I've ever trained with, that I
follow his program now, wholeheartedly. Among others, he trained Wade Boggs, and Boggs
credits him with saving his career. I wondered whether you would like me to inquire into his interest
of coming to the next summer camp. He has 2 or 3 videos on the market, so might be willing to
come, to help sales. . . . Anyway, let me know if you'd like me to speak with him.
I hope all else is well, and hopefully I'll see you this summer myself.
Close gate,
Jay N.
Always looking for new teachers for the camp, especially in the "Healing Arts". This year's camp should be an excellent one. Quite a few new seminars have been added already, with many more in the planning stage. Thanks for thinking of us and hopefully you will be able to join us this year. GEM
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